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🤔 Feel like your AI is bullshitting you? It’s not just you. 🚨 We quantified machine bullshit 💩 Turns out, aligning LLMs to be "helpful" via human feedback actually teaches them to bullshit—and Chain-of-Thought reasoning just makes it worse! 🔥 Time to rethink AI alignment. https://t.co/rL64tIQZdH

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