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Recently, I saw the papers "rl on one sample" and "spurious reward". The findings are interesting, but they are indeed expected. In fact, the math solving ability of the Qwen models is really easy to activateโ€”๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ง ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐š๐ง๐ฒ ๐ญ๐ซ๐š๐ข๐ง๐ข๐ง๐  !๐Ÿคฃ I'd like to shareโ€ฆ https://t.co/7wEmmZgnzA

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